Kamoko's Avatar

L5R CCG Rules board, 7 August 2007

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 7 August 2007

Kamoko's avatar's Battle action says to remove it from the game after the Dynasty phase begins. Is that only for the turn it is created or will this repeat on every Dynasty phase (should the Avatar somehow be removed from the game temporarily with effects such as Suitengu's Surge)?

[Mod edit: Thread title. There is no need to put formats in thread titles -- we serve all. -ZF]

Martin Lund (rules official), 7 August 2007

A created card ceases to exist when it leaves play. A created card that cannot enter play ceases to exist.

As referenced here.

Suitengu's Surge doesn't play well with Created Cards. When it removes them from the game these cease to exist and can not be returned to play since they no longer exist.

If a created card leaves play for any reason it does not go to a "Removed From the Game," area - its entire existence is expunged irrevocably.

Also, technically Kamoko's Avatar is an Action card and doesn't remove itself from the game. It creates a Personality Card and removes that Personality Card from the game. The Action card just happens to come with a handy Personality card design on the front so you can use it as easy reference / representation of the created Spirit Personality. You still technically have the Action card "Kamoko's Avatar" in your Discard Pile.