A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 29 July 2007
I'm a bit confused as to the interaction between the abilities on the new Togashi Satsu and Togashi Kazuki. Specifically I'm not sure how Kazuki's ability interacts with Satsu's force boosting trait. Say I have 3 rings and both personalities in play. I use Kazuki's ability on a third personality. Kazuki has 10 force when the ability is used. The personality's force is set to 10, but then what happens? Does it then apply the Satsu effect and become 13, or does it stay at 10? What happens when the personality leaves Satsu's location? What if it leaves and rejoins later? Three scenarios would seem to make sense to me, but I'd like to understand the reasoning should some other wrench be thrown in.
1. Force becomes 13, and goes down to 10 when it leaves Satsu's location
2. Force remains 10, and goes down to 7 when it leaves Satu's location
3. Force is locked at 10 regardless of proximity to Satsu. (but then what happens if the personality leaves and comes back?)
Here is the card text for reference
Togashi Satsu
Force 6 Chi 6 Honor 8 Gold 13 Phonor 4 Dragon Clan • Clan Champion • Samurai • Monk • Shugenja • Cavalry • Duelist • Dragon • Experienced 4 • Unique • Loyal Your Dragon Clan Personalities at Satsu's location have a Force bonus equal to the number of Rings you control. Limited: Once per game, even if Satsu is dead: Search your Fate deck, hand or discard pile for a Ring. Show it. Put it into play or into your hand.
Togashi Kazuki
Force 4 Chi 4 Honor 0 Gold 8 Phonor 2 Dragon Clan • Monk • Samurai Kazuki has +1F for each Ring you control. Open: Target another of your Personalities. Set his Force to Kazuki’s Force or his Chi to Kazuki’s Chi.
Chris Fuchs (rules official), 29 July 2007
I'm a bit confused as to the interaction between the abilities on the new Togashi Satsu and Togashi Kazuki. Specifically I'm not sure how Kazuki's ability interacts with Satsu's force boosting trait. Say I have 3 rings and both personalities in play. I use Kazuki's ability on a third personality. Kazuki has 10 force when the ability is used. The personality's force is set to 10, but then what happens? Does it then apply the Satsu effect and become 13, or does it stay at 10? What happens when the personality leaves Satsu's location? What if it leaves and rejoins later? Three scenarios would seem to make sense to me, but I'd like to understand the reasoning should some other wrench be thrown in.
1. Force becomes 13, and goes down to 10 when it leaves Satsu's location
2. Force remains 10, and goes down to 7 when it leaves Satu's location
3. Force is locked at 10 regardless of proximity to Satsu. (but then what happens if the personality leaves and comes back?)
Here is the card text for reference
Togashi Satsu
Force 6 Chi 6 Honor 8 Gold 13 Phonor 4 Dragon Clan • Clan Champion • Samurai • Monk • Shugenja • Cavalry • Duelist • Dragon • Experienced 4 • Unique • Loyal Your Dragon Clan Personalities at Satsu's location have a Force bonus equal to the number of Rings you control. Limited: Once per game, even if Satsu is dead: Search your Fate deck, hand or discard pile for a Ring. Show it. Put it into play or into your hand.
Togashi Kazuki
Force 4 Chi 4 Honor 0 Gold 8 Phonor 2 Dragon Clan • Monk • Samurai Kazuki has +1F for each Ring you control. Open: Target another of your Personalities. Set his Force to Kazuki’s Force or his Chi to Kazuki’s Chi.
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