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A player, 15 February 2007
Hi there,
As a followup to my previous question here:
And in pursuit of further Clarification re: Matsu Wani's posting here
chrisF said:
No. All terrains are played for their battle actions. Delayed terrains just resolve at a specified time instead of immediately.
Let's say this hypothetical situation:
I play Unshakable to play Three-Stone River for its battle action from my discard pile:
Three-Stone River is a delayed terrain, and I'm playing it for its battle action, which is:
Battle: Reduce the Force of each Personality at this battlefield to the Force of his highest-Force Follower, or to 1 if he has no Followers.
However Unshakable states that the card is removed from the game, AFTER that action ends.
Does that mean that the following is correct?
1. Unshakable plays Three-Stone River, which as a delayed terrain, does not resolve its battle action until terrains are resolved after the battle actions segment, at which point its battle action takes effect (i.e. force reduction), and then both unshakable and the three-stone river are removed from play?
Or does it mean:
2. Unshakable plays Three-Stone River, which as a delayed terrain, does not resolve its battle action immediately, so the battle action does not take effect, and both cards are removed from play?
Or is the end result completely different?
Sorry for being so obtuse on this topic. Thanks very much for your help!
Zen Faulkes (rules official), 15 February 2007
Hi there,
As a followup to my previous question here:
And in pursuit of further Clarification re: Matsu Wani's posting here
chrisF said:
Let's say this hypothetical situation:
I play Unshakable to play Three-Stone River for its battle action from my discard pile:
Three-Stone River is a delayed terrain, and I'm playing it for its battle action, which is:
Battle: Reduce the Force of each Personality at this battlefield to the Force of his highest-Force Follower, or to 1 if he has no Followers.
However Unshakable states that the card is removed from the game, AFTER that action ends.
Does that mean that the following is correct?
1. Unshakable plays Three-Stone River, which as a delayed terrain, does not resolve its battle action until terrains are resolved after the battle actions segment, at which point its battle action takes effect (i.e. force reduction), and then both unshakable and the three-stone river are removed from play?
Or does it mean:
2. Unshakable plays Three-Stone River, which as a delayed terrain, does not resolve its battle action immediately, so the battle action does not take effect, and both cards are removed from play?
Or is the end result completely different?
Sorry for being so obtuse on this topic. Thanks very much for your help!
The former (1).