Doji Choshi and Disavowed

L5R CCG Rules board, 16 December 2005

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from the Wayback Machine (its copy), so posts it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 16 December 2005

Doji Choshi:

Crane Clan Manipulator • Courtier • Harrier Liaison

Battle: Destroy an unbowed Harrier Personality you control in the current battle: Once per battle the Harrier produces a ranged 4 Attack. You may take an additional Battle action on a Harrier you control other than Choshi.

Blazing Arrow:

While this card is in an army, cards in that army may combine ranged attacks even if they are in different units.

Battle: Bow this card: Ranged 2 Attack.

Disavowed

Battle: Target and dishonor an unbowed Harrier Personality you control: He produces either a Ranged 6 Attack or two consecutive Ranged 3 Attacks. You may then move him home.

I have Doji Choshi with Blazing Arrow attached and another Harrier in a battle. Is it possible to play Disavowed on Choshi for two consecutive RA3, and combine one RA with her ability to destroy the other Harrier, which will make a RA7, and the second RA with bowing Blazing Arrow to make a RA5 ?

If yes, do I still get another Battle action on another harrier from Choshi's ability ?

Thanks for the answer [;

Martin Lund (rules official), 16 December 2005

Doji Choshi:

Crane Clan Manipulator • Courtier • Harrier Liaison

Battle: Destroy an unbowed Harrier Personality you control in the current battle: Once per battle the Harrier produces a ranged 4 Attack. You may take an additional Battle action on a Harrier you control other than Choshi.

Blazing Arrow:

While this card is in an army, cards in that army may combine ranged attacks even if they are in different units.

Battle: Bow this card: Ranged 2 Attack.

Disavowed

Battle: Target and dishonor an unbowed Harrier Personality you control: He produces either a Ranged 6 Attack or two consecutive Ranged 3 Attacks. You may then move him home.

I have Doji Choshi with Blazing Arrow attached and another Harrier in a battle. Is it possible to play Disavowed on Choshi for two consecutive RA3, and combine one RA with her ability to destroy the other Harrier, which will make a RA7, and the second RA with bowing Blazing Arrow to make a RA5 ?

If yes, do I still get another Battle action on another harrier from Choshi's ability ?

Thanks for the answer [;

To summarize the relevant rulings, you can only combined Ranged Attacks that have the same timing. You can combine the first RA in a Consecutive Series produced by a Battle Action with any other Battle Action RA you could've legally taken instead that can hit the same target.

The second and subsequent Ranged Attacks in a Consecutive Series can't be combined with "regular" Ranged Attacks because they are targeted at a different time (after the previous RA resolves) during the Action than a regular Ranged Attack would (targeting step). There are rare circumstances where two series of Consecutive Ranged Attacks might be combined, but that's not relevant to this example.

So for your exact example, making the Ranged 7 would be OK, but the Blazing Arrow doesn't have the right timing to match with the second Ranged 3 attack.

So you'd see Ranged 7, followed by a Ranged 3, followed by an option to move Choshi home, followed by the option to gain an addition opportunity to take an Open or Battle Action immediately after this one.