doji shirarou, kakita akitomo, doji tashihime timing

L5R CCG Rules board, 2 May 2015

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 2 May 2015

hello! i need some clarification on this:

I have doji shirarou , kakita akitomo, and doji tashihime in play. if i use doji shirarou's ability

limited: discard the top card of your fate deck. target another player, who may choose to lose 2 honor. if he does not choose this, gain honor equal to the card's focus value

must the opposing player choose if he loses or gains honor first before i declare my interrupt with akitomo/tashihime, or must i interrupt first with either/both of them before the other player chooses which effect happens?

question 2: if, for example,my opponent chooses to gain honor with shirarou and i interrupt with akitomo, can i interrupt with tashihime to make him lose additional honor?

question 3: if my opponent chooses instead to lose honor with shirarou, and i interrrupt with tashihime, can i interrupt it with akitomo to make him lose additional honor?

thanks!

doji tashihime: political interrupt: before another player loses honor from the action, increase the loss by 1 and gain 1 honor kakita akitomo: political interrupt: if the action is yours, before you gain honor from it, negate the gain to make a target player lose 1 honor

Jon Palmer (rules official), 2 May 2015

hello! i need some clarification on this:

I have doji shirarou , kakita akitomo, and doji tashihime in play. if i use doji shirarou's ability

limited: discard the top card of your fate deck. target another player, who may choose to lose 2 honor. if he does not choose this, gain honor equal to the card's focus value

must the opposing player choose if he loses or gains honor first before i declare my interrupt with akitomo/tashihime, or must i interrupt first with either/both of them before the other player chooses which effect happens?

question 2: if, for example,my opponent chooses to gain honor with shirarou and i interrupt with akitomo, can i interrupt with tashihime to make him lose additional honor?

question 3: if my opponent chooses instead to lose honor with shirarou, and i interrrupt with tashihime, can i interrupt it with akitomo to make him lose additional honor?

thanks!

doji tashihime: political interrupt: before another player loses honor from the action, increase the loss by 1 and gain 1 honor kakita akitomo: political interrupt: if the action is yours, before you gain honor from it, negate the gain to make a target player lose 1 honor

1. Akitomo and Tashihime must interrupt during the Interrupt step, which is before a player decides to gain or lose honor.

2. Tashihime cannot interrupt Akitomo's interrupt (interrupts cannot interrupt interrupts), so she cannot increase the honor loss from Akitomo. Akitomo is the source of the loss there, not Shirarou.

3. For the same reason, you may not interrupt Tashihime with Akitomo.