A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 15 April 2015
Hello. I am trying to create Love Letter Deck, and there are some things unclear to me...
Situation A) : I am using Seppun Tasuke ability, naming "3". Then during battle I use Kaiu Akemi's ability and use Voice of Experience' intterupt. Opponent shows a card with printed FV of 2, I add extra +1FV (from VoE) to it, and discard my card with 4FV to discard his card. Question - do I get the affection token from sensei, for opponent discarding a "3" FV card? Sensei does not precise at what point of time the FV is checked, and FV manipulation is made during the course of discard.
Situation B) : I am using Seppun Tasuke ability, naming "3". Then during battle I use Kaiu Akemi's ability anduse Voice of Experience' intterupt. Opponent shows a card with printed FV of 2. I discard a > 3FV < card to discard his card. Now, as his card is discarded, chose to increase his FV by 1 due to VoE effect. Question - may I do so? VoE can be used on both showing OR discarding...
Situation C) : I am using Seppun Tasuke ability, naming "3". Then during battle I use Kaiu Akemi's ability and use Voice of Experience' intterupt. My opponent uses his Voice of Experience as well. Opponent shows a card with printed FV of 2, and then increases it to 3 due to his VoE effect. I discard a 3FV card from my hand and use mine VoE on it to discard his card. Question - may I do so? At the point of discarding my card mine has not enough value to discard opponents card, but I have means and intention to make it so...
Bonus question (just occured to me) : Kaiu Akemi shows a card in other player's hand. Then, as a _separate_ effect, it is possible to discard it. Because card loses all "memory" of all effects affecting it if it is out of play and face-down, wouldn't the VoE effect used on "showing" the card wear off when the discarding effect is about to resolve?
Voice of Experience Interrupt: After each time the action discards or shows any cards, you may give them +1FV.
Seppun Tasuke Open, #BOW: Name a number and target another player. After each time his (non-Focused) card with that Focus Value is discarded, gain an Affection token.
Kaiu Akemi, the Diplomat Battle: If Akemi is opposed, show a random card in the enemy leader's hand. You may discard a card with a higher Focus Value (from your hand) to discard the shown card.
Jon Palmer (rules official), 20 April 2015
Hello. I am trying to create Love Letter Deck, and there are some things unclear to me...
Situation A) : I am using Seppun Tasuke ability, naming "3". Then during battle I use Kaiu Akemi's ability and use Voice of Experience' intterupt. Opponent shows a card with printed FV of 2, I add extra +1FV (from VoE) to it, and discard my card with 4FV to discard his card. Question - do I get the affection token from sensei, for opponent discarding a "3" FV card? Sensei does not precise at what point of time the FV is checked, and FV manipulation is made during the course of discard.
Situation B) : I am using Seppun Tasuke ability, naming "3". Then during battle I use Kaiu Akemi's ability anduse Voice of Experience' intterupt. Opponent shows a card with printed FV of 2. I discard a > 3FV < card to discard his card. Now, as his card is discarded, chose to increase his FV by 1 due to VoE effect. Question - may I do so? VoE can be used on both showing OR discarding...
Situation C) : I am using Seppun Tasuke ability, naming "3". Then during battle I use Kaiu Akemi's ability and use Voice of Experience' intterupt. My opponent uses his Voice of Experience as well. Opponent shows a card with printed FV of 2, and then increases it to 3 due to his VoE effect. I discard a 3FV card from my hand and use mine VoE on it to discard his card. Question - may I do so? At the point of discarding my card mine has not enough value to discard opponents card, but I have means and intention to make it so...
Bonus question (just occured to me) : Kaiu Akemi shows a card in other player's hand. Then, as a _separate_ effect, it is possible to discard it. Because card loses all "memory" of all effects affecting it if it is out of play and face-down, wouldn't the VoE effect used on "showing" the card wear off when the discarding effect is about to resolve?
Voice of Experience Interrupt: After each time the action discards or shows any cards, you may give them +1FV.
Seppun Tasuke Open, #BOW: Name a number and target another player. After each time his (non-Focused) card with that Focus Value is discarded, gain an Affection token.
Kaiu Akemi, the Diplomat Battle: If Akemi is opposed, show a random card in the enemy leader's hand. You may discard a card with a higher Focus Value (from your hand) to discard the shown card.
In all of these cases, the timing is the same, so the active player chooses which among Tasuke, Akemi, and VoE's effects apply first. As long as you're the active player, you can resolve them in the order that it will work as you wish. If you're not the active player (and this applies when the opponent has a VoE, or if it's not your turn) your effects will not resolve in the order you wish them to resolve.