Ranged/Fear/Melee attacks

L5R CCG Rules board, 30 March 2015 to 31 March 2015

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 30 March 2015

Seeing as targeting is now done before interrupts, for some reason,I don't understand, Can I even make a Ranged attack that has no visible legal targets without obviously using something from my hand. That to me feels like I'm giving out way too much information from my hand. Making Turtle shell ridiculously strong.

In my head it goes, Ranged attack 3. Everything is 6 force, obviously I have no target so therefore I can't do the action. However, I have interrupts I can do to make it bigger but targeting is before interrupts. I also see it as I'll just let him waste actions and then at the last second after he was wasted every possible action, I laugh and say turtle's shell.

I mean if that's the intention okay. But nonetheless I want to know If I can even do a Ranged/Melee/Fear attack that has no obvious targets without being interrupted.

Thanks!

Jon Palmer (rules official), 31 March 2015

Seeing as targeting is now done before interrupts, for some reason,I don't understand, Can I even make a Ranged attack that has no visible legal targets without obviously using something from my hand. That to me feels like I'm giving out way too much information from my hand. Making Turtle shell ridiculously strong.

In my head it goes, Ranged attack 3. Everything is 6 force, obviously I have no target so therefore I can't do the action. However, I have interrupts I can do to make it bigger but targeting is before interrupts. I also see it as I'll just let him waste actions and then at the last second after he was wasted every possible action, I laugh and say turtle's shell.

I mean if that's the intention okay. But nonetheless I want to know If I can even do a Ranged/Melee/Fear attack that has no obvious targets without being interrupted.

Thanks!

First, it is legal to make a Ranged 3 attack against a Ranged 6 Personality. It won't have any effect most of the time, but it is legal. Per the CR: "“Ranged X Attack”, where X stands for a number, is shorthand for the text “Target a Follower or a Personality without Followers in the current enemy army. If its Force is equal to or less than X, destroy it.”"

Second, yes, you have to choose your target prior to any Interrupts being played. If you choose a 6F Personality with the Ranged 3, you will want to play your Interrupts to increase its strength, and then your opponent will have the opportunity to play The Turtle's Shell. Realistically, this situation already existed in Ivory, if the opponent's only legal target was 6F and you announced a Ranged 3. He could have waited to play The Turtle's Shell in that situation as well.