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A player, 24 February 2015
Hi there.. I had this situation.. how should I resolve?
I got my Mirumoto Tsuda EXP dishonored challenging a keepo with his printed duel:
Challenge a target enemy Personality. If the target is honorable, his controller may dishonor him and move him home to refuse the duel. Destroy the loser.
He refuses to kill his keepo so dishonor and send home is anounced, and executed.
This triggers my Yodo sensei. Will Tsuda Rehonor? or will I get 1 honor for this?
Page 18 of the Advanced Manual:
Sometimes an honor gain will rehonor a Dishonored Personality. Specifically, you substitute rehonoring for Honor gain: 1- Before a player gains Honor from an action or trait that targeted or came from one or more of his or her dishonorable Personalities.
I don't really TARGET the sensei so I'm a bit confused.
Regarding the same question, what happen if I challenge as a limited Action with a Dishonored Tsuda with Sanctioned Duel and be refused?
If he refuses, dishonor him and gain 2 Honor.
Win 1 honor for sensei and rehonor my Tsuda? Rehonor Tsuda and Win 2 honor? only Rehonor Tsuda?
Is it the same with Show me your Stance or Clash of blades? the honor wins actions are separated by period. Clash of Blades
Dishonor and permanently remove all abilities from the loser. The winner gains 1 Honor.
Show me Your Stance
The winner gains 2 Honor. Dishonor the loser.
Thanks in advance for your time. [bow]
Sorry for long post. I owe you the potato.
Jon Palmer (rules official), 5 March 2015
Hi there.. I had this situation.. how should I resolve?
I got my Mirumoto Tsuda EXP dishonored challenging a keepo with his printed duel:
He refuses to kill his keepo so dishonor and send home is anounced, and executed.
This triggers my Yodo sensei. Will Tsuda Rehonor? or will I get 1 honor for this?
Page 18 of the Advanced Manual:
I don't really TARGET the sensei so I'm a bit confused.
Regarding the same question, what happen if I challenge as a limited Action with a Dishonored Tsuda with Sanctioned Duel and be refused?
Win 1 honor for sensei and rehonor my Tsuda? Rehonor Tsuda and Win 2 honor? only Rehonor Tsuda?
Is it the same with Show me your Stance or Clash of blades? the honor wins actions are separated by period. Clash of Blades
Show me Your Stance
Thanks in advance for your time. [bow]
Sorry for long post. I owe you the potato.
Yodo Sensei will not rehonor your Personalities when used to Interrupt a dishonoring action. The other actions listed, however, all target your dishonorable Personality and therefore will rehonor him if they would otherwise result in an honor gain.
I'll take the potato in vodka form, if you don't mind