A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.
A player, 30 October 2014
From here.
I have to completely disagree with the ruling that playing a Ring from hand is not discarding it from your hand as the Rings all say "You may discard this Ring from your hand to use its ability without cost." That is pretty clearly discarding the Ring from your hand becasue that is what the card says it is.
Alex Jones (rules official), 31 October 2014
From here.
I have to completely disagree with the ruling that playing a Ring from hand is not discarding it from your hand as the Rings all say "You may discard this Ring from your hand to use its ability without cost." That is pretty clearly discarding the Ring from your hand becasue that is what the card says it is.
The wording on the Rings is perhaps misleading, but the Comprehensive Rules are clear on this subject. See p21-21, Resolution Areas: After announcing an action from an ability on a Strategy or other card in a player’s hand, the card in question is placed in a special temporary area, face-up but out of play. If the card discards itself from the hand as part of its ability, this discard is done from the resolution area.
A player, 3 November 2014
From here
Uhm, the rules are also clear about card text and the rules:
"Cardinal Rule 1 Cards vs. rules: If the text of any card contradicts these Comprehensive Rules, follow the card text, not the rules. Something that changes one aspect of a rule does not by itself change any other aspects of the rule."
So when you discard the ring from your hand to use it's abilities then you are actually discarding it from your hand. It may then need to enter a resolution area or what not and then re-enter the discard pile though.
Alex Jones (rules official), 4 November 2014
From here
Uhm, the rules are also clear about card text and the rules:
"Cardinal Rule 1 Cards vs. rules: If the text of any card contradicts these Comprehensive Rules, follow the card text, not the rules. Something that changes one aspect of a rule does not by itself change any other aspects of the rule."
So when you discard the ring from your hand to use it's abilities then you are actually discarding it from your hand. It may then need to enter a resolution area or what not and then re-enter the discard pile though.
Except that there is no "contradiction", as required by Cardinal Rule #1.
The Rings say, "discard this Ring from your hand", and the Comprehensive Rules say that when a card says that, it is placed in a Resolution area, and is discarded from there. Cardinal Rule #1 is not involved here.