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A player, 27 October 2014
Sorry If I missed this but what happens when you combine unstoppable actions with non-unstoppable actions or vice versa?
For example If Daigotsu Takahide who has an unstoppable fear 3 also has skeleton troop on him. I declare using Takahide's ability and declare adding in the fear 3 from the troops is the entire action unstoppable? What if I declared the fear 3 from the skeleton troops and then added in the fear from Takahide?
Just trying to figure out if it makes a difference with how I am declaring it.
thank you,
Jon Palmer (rules official), 27 October 2014
Sorry If I missed this but what happens when you combine unstoppable actions with non-unstoppable actions or vice versa?
For example If Daigotsu Takahide who has an unstoppable fear 3 also has skeleton troop on him. I declare using Takahide's ability and declare adding in the fear 3 from the troops is the entire action unstoppable? What if I declared the fear 3 from the skeleton troops and then added in the fear from Takahide?
Just trying to figure out if it makes a difference with how I am declaring it.
thank you,
In order for Unstoppable to be applied to the action, it needs to be on the originating (Ranged, Melee, Fear) attack. Whether or not those that combine as Interrupts are Unstoppable does not matter, as they are Interrupts and cannot be Interrupted anyway.
A player, 30 October 2014
I don't quite understand this answer: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=110667
It seems to indicate yes you can combine unstoppable and stoppable actions, but then says you can't because they are interrupts, but Unstoppable actions only read "Other players cannot interrupt", not you as the acting player. So can you combine or not?
Also what if I use Daigotsu Takahide unstoppable fear (combine with Skeletal Troops) and use Okura is Released can my opponent play Escalating Violence?
Alex Jones (rules official), 31 October 2014
I don't quite understand this answer: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=110667
It seems to indicate yes you can combine unstoppable and stoppable actions, but then says you can't because they are interrupts, but Unstoppable actions only read "Other players cannot interrupt", not you as the acting player. So can you combine or not?
Also what if I use Daigotsu Takahide unstoppable fear (combine with Skeletal Troops) and use Okura is Released can my opponent play Escalating Violence?
Interrupt actions do not themselves have an Interrupt step: no-one may Interrupt them. Hence no Interrupts will be printed with Unstoppable.
If you use an Unstoppable Battle ability as an Interrupt to combine its Ranged/Melee/Fear attack with that of your Battle action, the Interrupt action is indeed Unstoppable - but that's not relevant to anything, since the Interrupt can't be Interrupted by anyone, anyway. It does not make the original action Unstoppable.
Furthermore, Escalating Violence does nothing when Okura is Released is played, as it's Okura is Released which destroys the card, not the original Battle action.
A player, 31 October 2014
http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=110667&p=1445355#p1445355
I think the above has gotten side tracked and missed the key question
If In combine an unstoppable fear, ranged or melee with a normal one, is it still unstoppable?
Daigotsu Takahide - Unstoppable Battle: Fear 3 has attached Skeletal Troops - Battle: Fear 3
I announce Takahide's action, combine the Skeletal Troops so I now have Fear 6 Question is: Is the Fear 6 Unstoppable or Normal
I would have thought it would have been normal based under the "Fear through Followers" rulings viewtopic.php?f=59&t=108529&p=1426454&hilit=zlkyt+family#p1426454
Can you confirm?
Thanks
Alex Jones (rules official), 31 October 2014
http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=110667&p=1445355#p1445355
I think the above has gotten side tracked and missed the key question
If In combine an unstoppable fear, ranged or melee with a normal one, is it still unstoppable?
Daigotsu Takahide - Unstoppable Battle: Fear 3 has attached Skeletal Troops - Battle: Fear 3
I announce Takahide's action, combine the Skeletal Troops so I now have Fear 6 Question is: Is the Fear 6 Unstoppable or Normal
I would have thought it would have been normal based under the "Fear through Followers" rulings viewtopic.php?f=59&t=108529&p=1426454&hilit=zlkyt+family#p1426454
Can you confirm?
Thanks
An Unstoppable Battle action does not lose Unstoppable just because you have Interrupt'd it with a non-Unstoppable Interrupt.