Re: Yoritomo Haruna & Second City Market

L5R CCG Rules board, 1 August 2014 to 5 August 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 1 August 2014

http://www.alderac.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=109265#p1434185

i would just like to add to this discussion a little. i really don't understand the purpose of the (*) starred gold-cost at all. sometimes it's used to legit be a variable cost but most of the time it's presence is arbitrary.

Cavalry Escort says "Battle, (*): If this Follower is in your hand, Recruit your target Personality (paying all costs) for 5 more gold and attach this Follower (ignoring all costs) to him." but that's silly because the recruitment action already states that you'll pay gold. the way i think it should be worded to make the most sense is, "Battle, (5): If this Follower is in your hand, Recruit your target Personality (paying all costs because that's already how recruitment works) and attach this Follower (ignoring all costs) to him."

i don't understand why in Cav escort it specifies that you are paying all costs for your recruitment but on Second City Market is does not specify to pay all costs.

so either the (*) can be ignored completely because paying gold is already implied with the recruitment action (and equip action on some cards). or Second City Market already brings a holding into play for free because it does not specify to pay all costs (like cav escort does) and i'll just choose to pay 0 for the variable (*).

Ben Higgins (rules official), 5 August 2014

i don't understand why in Cav escort it specifies that you are paying all costs for your recruitment but on Second City Market is does not specify to pay all costs.

Cavalry Escort doesn't specify it ignores costs, it implies it via reminder text. The reason for the templating change between The Coming Storm and A Line in the Sand, is because we did feel Cavalry Escort was confusing on some levels, so we changed the template for AlitS.

Gold costs for Recruit effects are paid at the Pay Costs step of the action they belong to.