Thousand year rivalry

L5R CCG Rules board, 26 May 2014 to 27 May 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 26 May 2014

So the trait reads "After the first time each turn any of your Personalities wins a duel, give him a +1F token. After your first challenge each turn is refused, gain 1 Honor." Does this mean that only the first time each turn you win or your opponent declines you get your +1F or 1 honor or every time literally after the first time? So the first refusal is a freebie for my opponent but every time after that I get 1 honor?

Ben Higgins (rules official), 27 May 2014

So the trait reads "After the first time each turn any of your Personalities wins a duel, give him a +1F token. After your first challenge each turn is refused, gain 1 Honor." Does this mean that only the first time each turn you win or your opponent declines you get your +1F or 1 honor or every time literally after the first time? So the first refusal is a freebie for my opponent but every time after that I get 1 honor?

There are two separate triggered traits on Thousand Year Rivalry.

The first triggers after the first time your Personality wins a duel. The second triggers if the first challenge you issue for the turn is refused.

Hope that clears it up!