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A player, 24 April 2014
Hello!
Dying Remonstration (http://imperialassembly.com/oracle/#cardid=10936) says :
Political Open: Your target unbowed Human Personality commits seppuku. A target player loses Honor equal to the Personality's Personal Honor or 4, whichever is lower.
How much honor a target player loses, if I play DR on Personality that is a created card (f.e. Lion Ancestor, Nimuro's twin)? Seppuku effect destroys personality, after that created card ceases to exist and there is no PH value around to use for next effect.
Thanx!
Jon Palmer (rules official), 24 April 2014
Hello!
Dying Remonstration (http://imperialassembly.com/oracle/#cardid=10936) says :
How much honor a target player loses, if I play DR on Personality that is a created card (f.e. Lion Ancestor, Nimuro's twin)? Seppuku effect destroys personality, after that created card ceases to exist and there is no PH value around to use for next effect.
Thanx!
When an effect that causes a created card to leave play needs to check for a value from that card, it checks what the value was immediately before it left play.