Force questions again

L5R CCG Rules board, 9 April 2014

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 9 April 2014

1. With Translated Story of Shaharazad since the +1f token are on the item. Would it give a force bonus or a stat modification?

2. Is the trait of Asako Kaitoko setting the max force of a 9F nonhuman to 3F a force penalty?

3. Since it says on Breaking the Rhythm that it only negates the current bonus/penalty. Do continues bonuses/penalties reapply themselves afterwards such as those (+1F/-1F) Tokens and Traits like, All your oppose personalities gets +1F. For example a 2F peep with 3 +1F tokens(Yoritomo Toganin with the invest) gets targeted with breaking the rhythm after the Breaking resolves would the peep still be at 5F or 2F. And also for example a 2F peep gets a bonus from a trait that says "All personalities get +1F" (Yoritomo Toganin at a battlefield with Contentious Terrain) gets targeted with Breaking the Rhythm and after it resolved would the the personality be at 3F or 2F?

Brook Cunningham (rules official), 9 April 2014

1. With Translated Story of Shaharazad since the +1f token are on the item. Would it give a force bonus or a stat modification?

2. Is the trait of Asako Kaitoko setting the max force of a 9F nonhuman to 3F a force penalty?

3. Since it says on Breaking the Rhythm that it only negates the current bonus/penalty. Do continues bonuses/penalties reapply themselves afterwards such as those (+1F/-1F) Tokens and Traits like, All your oppose personalities gets +1F. For example a 2F peep with 3 +1F tokens(Yoritomo Toganin with the invest) gets targeted with breaking the rhythm after the Breaking resolves would the peep still be at 5F or 2F. And also for example a 2F peep gets a bonus from a trait that says "All personalities get +1F" (Yoritomo Toganin at a battlefield with Contentious Terrain) gets targeted with Breaking the Rhythm and after it resolved would the the personality be at 3F or 2F?

1. The tokens are bonuses to the Item itself. The Item then modifies the Personality. So, the Item has bonuses, but the Personality to whom it's attached does not; he's just being modified by the Item. I hope that makes sense?

2. Minimums and maximums are not bonuses or penalties.

3. No. Current continuous bonuses are current, and they will be suppressed for the duration of the negation. So, your example Personalities would both be at 2F until the end of turn (the default duration for effects, which includes Breaking's).