Favor actions + The Shadowed Estate of the Scorpion

L5R CCG Rules board, 14 March 2014 to 17 March 2014

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A player, 14 March 2014

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So now with the new Good Faith Rules Going Back to the Original Question.

• Favor actions require that you control the Imperial Favor, or have an alternate effect, substitute, or waiver (“need not”) for discarding the Favor.

Does this include the negation of the Shadowed Estate if my opponent has announced a favor action?

Alex Jones (rules official), 17 March 2014

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So now with the new Good Faith Rules Going Back to the Original Question.

• Favor actions require that you control the Imperial Favor, or have an alternate effect, substitute, or waiver (“need not”) for discarding the Favor.

Does this include the negation of the Shadowed Estate if my opponent has announced a favor action?

No.

Negation means that the effect does not happen. "Need not" means that you are not required to attempt to create the effect. The Shadowed Estate does not create any effect that says you need not discard the favour, just that any attempt from the action's effects to do so will fail.