I've got a question about Moksha Patam's trait and the Plains of the Maiden trait together. If I attack with people equipped with Moksha Patams and I'm able to destroy an enemy army and raise a province in the same battle, will the honor gains calculated at resolution be considered 3 separate gains for the purpose of the Moksha's trait? So basically anyone holding a Moksha would gain 3 force after resolution in that scenario? I do know that Plains of the Maiden and destroying enemy cards/province at resolution counts as 3 honor gains but wanted clarification if your units only gain 1 force, 2 force or 3 force after resolution in that scenario.
Moksha Patam and Plains of the Maiden
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I've got a question about Moksha Patam's trait and the Plains of the Maiden trait together. If I attack with people equipped with Moksha Patams and I'm able to destroy an enemy army and raise a province in the same battle, will the honor gains calculated at resolution be considered 3 separate gains for the purpose of the Moksha's trait? So basically anyone holding a Moksha would gain 3 force after resolution in that scenario? I do know that Plains of the Maiden and destroying enemy cards/province at resolution counts as 3 honor gains but wanted clarification if your units only gain 1 force, 2 force or 3 force after resolution in that scenario.
Moksha Patam's trait says "After an action resolves," so it won't trigger after the honour gain from Plains of the Maiden's trait, nor after the honour gain in the Rulebook for destroying an enemy army in battle resolution.
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Thanks for the reply to that question. It does make sense that resolution would not be considered an action resolving. I have three more questions. My first question would be does anyone with Mokshas gain force with a card like Temple Fortress or is bowing to gain honor not considered an actual action resolving? My next question is does proclaiming count as an action resolving for the purpose of Moksha? My final question pertains to battle cards such as Surety of Purpose or My Enemy's Mercy.
Let's say I have Eun-ju and Mai in battle both equipped with a Moksha. I target Mai and have her use Surety of Purpose. Will she be the only one getting the force token since she is the one performing the action or would Eun-ju also get it even though she wasn't targeted as the performer? Sometimes text in the game can be confusing and I just want to make sure I haven't been getting excessive force bonuses from Moksha Patam.
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Thanks for the reply to that question. It does make sense that resolution would not be considered an action resolving. I have three more questions. My first question would be does anyone with Mokshas gain force with a card like Temple Fortress or is bowing to gain honor not considered an actual action resolving? My next question is does proclaiming count as an action resolving for the purpose of Moksha? My final question pertains to battle cards such as Surety of Purpose or My Enemy's Mercy.
Let's say I have Eun-ju and Mai in battle both equipped with a Moksha. I target Mai and have her use Surety of Purpose. Will she be the only one getting the force token since she is the one performing the action or would Eun-ju also get it even though she wasn't targeted as the performer? Sometimes text in the game can be confusing and I just want to make sure I haven't been getting excessive force bonuses from Moksha Patam.
If the honour gain is from the effects of an action, Moksha Patam's trait triggers. If there's no action, or the honour gain came from something else while the action was resolving, the trait does not trigger.
Proclaiming is an action.
Moksha Patam's trait doesn't care who performed the action, or even if there was a performer. If an action resolves with effects that create an honour gain, the trait triggers.