Incense Mill vs Same turn non-perform restriction

L5R CCG Rules board, 1 November 2012 to 7 November 2012

A topic from AEG's L5R CCG Rules forum, copied for Oracle of the Void from a copy of the forum saved in October 2015, so pages it didn't save are missing. Players' names are left out; the rules officials are named. Rulings are as they stood on these dates; later rulings, the rulebooks and the Rules Archive may differ.

A player, 1 November 2012

Incense Mill: "Battle/Open: Target a Personality: Negate all current Force penalties on him. Negate any cards' effects that say he may not perform actions (this turn)."

This came up recently, so if target personality A with Incense Mill during open, will any future effects (in the same turn) that targets the same personality such as Hotako xp's effect (that prevents performing) will also be negated?

So as an open action, it creates a shield/protection effects from opponent's effects that would have prevented him from performing? Or is that wrong? whereby incense mill only negates current ability on it, but not future?

Jon Palmer (rules official), 2 November 2012

Incense Mill: "Battle/Open: Target a Personality: Negate all current Force penalties on him. Negate any cards' effects that say he may not perform actions (this turn)."

This came up recently, so if target personality A with Incense Mill during open, will any future effects (in the same turn) that targets the same personality such as Hotako xp's effect (that prevents performing) will also be negated?

So as an open action, it creates a shield/protection effects from opponent's effects that would have prevented him from performing? Or is that wrong? whereby incense mill only negates current ability on it, but not future?

Incense Mill creates two instantaneous effects. Therefore it only removes force penalties and action-preventing effects on the Personality at the time Incense Mill is used. It doesn't set up any kind of future protection, unlike a card such as Deep Roots.

Jon Palmer (rules official), 7 November 2012

Per the current CR on the duration of Prevention Effects, "Continuous and ongoing effects that came into being after a relevant prevention effect was applied are also affected by it while the prevention lasts, by default." Therefore since Incense Mill lasts until the end of the turn, it will prevent future effects such as Hotako.

This is a REVERSAL.